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Charles Muddiman
1842 – 1908
2nd Great-Grandfather
1842 – Birth of Charles Muddiman
Muddiman (also Muddyman, Muddeman etc).
Charles Muddyman was born on 30th July 1842 at Dallam Lane in Warrington. He was the oldest child of Charles Muddiman and Mary Sackerson.
To date, we’ve not been able to find any record of the marriage of Charles & Mary. If we’ve found the right entry in the 1841 Census, they were already married.
Charles occupation is down as Butler on the Birth Cert (servant on baptism record). At the time of the 1841 Census, Charles was working as a Butler at Lymm Hall.
(More photos in the newspaper article)
He was baptised at St Pauls, Warrington on 28th August 1842.
1843 – Birth of brother, Alfred Muddiman
Alfred Muddiman was born in 1844 and baptised at Lymm Parish Church on 4th August 1844. As a child, he lived in Kettering, Northamptonshire with his uncle on his mothers side (bonus as this side of the family are proving very tricky to research!)
He enlisted in 1862 in Rifle Brigade. We lost track of him at the time of the 1871 and 1881 Census but from looking at birth places of their children in later census, Alfred was in Ireland at the time of the 1881 Census.
The family ended up living in Winchester (home to the Rifle Brigade).
Alfred married Kate Burgess at St Maurice in Winchester in 1874 and they had 16 children together. Several children followed in Alfred’s footsteps and also enlisted in the army.
- (female) Muddiman (1876 – 1876)
- Alfred Oliver Muddiman (1877 – 1877)
- William Charles Henry Muddiman (1878 – 1962)
- Bertie Muddiman (1879 – 1947)
- Frederick Alfred Muddiman (1881 – ?)
- Oliver Muddiman (1883 – 1914)
- Kate Muddiman (1884 – 1978)
- Caroline Bertha Muddiman (1885 – 1910)
- Stephen Muddiman (1889 – 1973)
- Christopher Muddiman (1889 – 1891)
- Florence Muddiman (1890 – ?)
- Hilda Maud Muddiman (1892 – 1983)
- Albert Victor Muddiman (1893 – 1893)
- Thomas Muddiman (1894 – 1988)
- Ernest Muddiman (1896 – 1976)
- plus one other child who died as a baby
1844 – Birth of brother, William Muddiman
Charles and Mary’s youngest child, William, was born in 1845 in Lymm. Sadly he died as a baby. He passed away in March 1846 in Manchester Street, Oldham. He was buried on 28th March 1846 at St Mary in Oldham.
1848 – Death of Mother, Mary Muddiman
Charles’ mother passed away on 23rd February 1848 aged just 33 years at Manchester Street in Oldham. She was buried at St Mary’s Church in Oldham – the same church as her youngest son, William.
Her husband, Charles, was with her when she passed away.
1851 Census
Glan yr Afon, Cadoxton Juxta, Neath, Glamorgan, Wales
| Names | Age | Relation to Head | Occupation | Where Born |
| William Jones | 20 | Head | Railway Labourer | Abergwili |
| Elizabeth Jones | 20 | Wife | – | Llanstephan |
| John Jones | 5 | Son | – | Llanstephan |
| David Jones | 2 | Son | – | Cadoxton Juxta Neath |
| Thomas Jones | 10 mo | Son | – | Cadoxton Juxta Neath |
| James Tricky | 34 | Lodger | Miner | Shutford, Devon |
| Charles MUDDIMAN | 34 | Lodger | Railway Contractor | Cubbington, Warwickshire |
| Charles MUDDIMAN | 8 | Lodger | Warrington, Lancashire |
1853 – Death of Grandmother, Ann Muddiman (Nee Pritchard)
Ann Muddiman died in May 1852 aged 79 years of age and was buried at Cubbington Parish Church on 6th May 1852.
1854 – Marriage (2nd) of Father, Charles Muddiman
Charles remarried in a Ellen Harrison on 1st October 1854 at St John, Liverpool. At the time both Charles and Ellen were noted to be residing in the Islington area of Liverpool.
1861 Census
37 Tatton Street, Ashton Under Lyne, Lancashire
| Name | Relation to Head | Marital Status | Age | Occupation | Place of Birth |
| Wiliam Hawkins | Head | Mar | 64 | Watchman | Eckelshall, Staffordshire |
| Elizabeth Hawkins | Wife | Mar | 41 | Housekeeper | Scotland |
| Charles MUDDIMAN | Boarder | Unm | 18 | Cotton Weaver | Warrington, Lancashire |
| Hugh McQuarter | Boarder | Widow | 58 | Tin Plate Worker | Glasgow, Scotland |
Source Citation
Class: Rg 9; Piece: 3153; Folio: 133; Page: 7; GSU roll: 543088
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/discoveryui-content/view/9341699:8767
1864 – Marriage to Ellen Bancroft
Charles and Ellen married at the Hanover Street Chapel in Halifax on 20th August 1864.
Their wedding was announced in the local paper.
1865 – Birth of daughter, Mary Muddiman
Charles and Ellen’s oldest child was born on 10 August 1865 and baptised at St Peters, Ashton-under-Lyne on 12th November 1865.
1867 – Birth & death of daughter, Lydia Muddiman
Named after Ellen’s mum, Lydia was born around May 1867 but sadly died in infancy aged just 7 months old.
She was buried at St Peter, Ashton-under-Lyne on 22nd December 1867.
1868 – Birth of daughter, Annie Muddiman
Annie Muddiman was born on 23rd September 1868 and was baptised at St Peters, Ashton-under-Lyne on 11th July 1869. She married Thomas Ogden in 1889 and possibly died in 1947.
1870 – Birth of daughter, Sarah Ann Muddiman
Sarah Ann Muddiman was born in 1870. She was Charles & Ellen’s fourth daughter. Sadly Sarah died early in 1874 aged just three years old – a week or so after her baby brother Alfred.
1870 – Death of Father, Charles Muddyman
Charles Muddyman passed away on the 10th September 1870 at Moss Street in Ashton-under-Lyne, Lancashire.
1871 Census
12 Fleet Street, Ashton-under-Lyne, Lancashire
| Name | Relation to Head | Marital Status | Age | Occupation | Place of Birth |
| Charles MUDDIMAN | Head | Mar | 28 | Cotton Weaver | Warrington, Lancashire |
| Ellen MUDDIMAN | Wife | Mar | 27 | Cotton Weaver | Sowerby Bridge, Yorkshire |
| Mary MUDDIMAN | Daur | 5 | Scholar | Ashton-under-Lyne, Lancashire | |
| Annie MUDDIMAN | Daur | 2 | Ashton-under-Lyne, Lancashire | ||
| Sarah Ann MUDDIMAN | Daur | 4m | Ashton-under-Lyne, Lancashire | ||
| Helena MUDDIMAN | Mother-in-law | Wid | 43 | Laundress | Chester, Cheshire |
Source Citation
The National Archives; Kew, London, England; 1871 England Census; Class: RG10; Piece: 4070; Folio: 54; Page: 21; GSU roll: 846350
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/discoveryui-content/view/17958646:7619
1873 – Birth of Son, Alfred Muddiman
Alfred Muddiman was born in 1873 and lived for just a couple of months.
1874 – Death of Children, Alfred & Sarah Ann Muddiman
Alfred and Sarah Ann died within a week or so of each other in January 1874. Both were buried at Christ Church, Ashton-under-Lyne, just 10 days apart.
1875 – Birth of son, Charles Alfred Muddiman
Charles Alfred Muddiman was born in 1875 and was the first of two sons to survive into adulthood. Charles married Maria Hill in 1897 (see this entry for more info).
1877 – Birth of son, John Wilson Muddiman
John Wilson Muddiman was born on 23rd May 1877 at 113 Fleet Street, Ashton-under-Lyne. His mother registered his birth.
1881 Census
98 Railway Street, Dukinfield, Lancashire
| Name | Relation to Head | Marital Status | Age | Occupation | Place of Birth |
| Charles MUDDYMAN | Head | Mar | 38 | Cotton Power Loom Overlooker | Warrington, Lancashire |
| Ellen MUDDYMAN | Wife | Mar | 37 | – | Sowerby Bridge, Yorkshire |
| Mary MUDDYMAN | Daur | Unm | 15 | Cotton Weaver | Ashton-under-Lyne, Lancashire |
| Annie MUDDYMAN | Daur | Unm | 12 | Scholar | Ashton-under-Lyne, Lancashire |
| Charles Alfred MUDDYMAN | Son | Unm | 6 | Scholar | Ashton-under-Lyne, Lancashire |
| John Wilson MUDDYMAN | Son | Unm | 3 | Scholar | Ashton-under-Lyne, Lancashire |
Source Citation
Class: RG11; Piece: 4287; Folio: 36; Page: 65; GSU roll: 1342024
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/7572/images/CHSRG11_4048_4052-0496
1887 – Marriage of Daughter, Mary Muddiman
Mary Muddiman married John Smith in Q1 1887.
They had at least 6 children together:
- Charles Smith (1887 – 1887)
- David Smith (1888 – )
- Ada Smith (1890 – )
- Ellen Smith (1894 – )
- John Smith (1895 – )
- Charles Alfred Smith (1897 – 1897)
1889 – Marriage of Daughter, Annie Muddiman
Annie Muddiman married Thomas Ogden at Bradford, Lancashire in 1889.
Heartbreakingly, 6 of their children died before the 1911 census (five in infancy):
- Charles Ogden (1890 – 1909)
- Ellen Ogden (1891 – 1891)
- William Ogden (1894 – 1895)
- Lydia Ogden (1896 -1899 )
- John Ogden (1898 – 1899)
- Annie Ogden (1900 – )
- John Ogden (1903 – 1903)
- John Ogden (1908 – )
- Jane Ogden (1911 – )
Annie remains hidden on the 1939 Register and possibly died in 1947.
1891 Census
5 Hewitts Buildings, Openshaw, Lancashire
| Name | Relation to Head | Marital Status | Age | Occupation | Place of Birth |
| Charles MUDDIMAN | Head | Mar | 48 | Cotton Power Loom Overlooker | Warrington, Lancashire |
| Ellen MUDDIMAN | Wife | Mar | 47 | – | Sowerby Bridge, Yorkshire |
| Charles Alfred MUDDIMAN | Son | Unm | 16 | Iron Dresser | Ashton-under-Lyne, Lancashire |
| John Wilson MUDDIMAN | Son | Unm | 13 | Smallacre Dealers Assistant (shop) | Ashton-under-Lyne, Lancashire |
| Annie OGDEN | Daur | Mar | 22 | Ashton-under-Lyne, Lancashire | |
| Charles OGDEN | Grandson | 1 | Ashton-under-Lyne, Lancashire |
Source Citation
The National Archives of the UK (TNA); Kew, Surrey, England; Census Returns of England and Wales, 1891; Class: RG12; Piece: 3177; Folio: 105; Page: 9; GSU roll: 6098287
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/discoveryui-content/view/13472634:6598
Hewitt Street, Manchester in the 1990s
1897 – Marriage of Son, Charles Alfred Muddiman
Charles Alfred Muddiman married Maria Hill in 1897 at Holy Trinity, Ashton-under-Lyne. They had at least 8 children together.
- Maria Muddiman (1898 – )
- George Muddiman (1900 – 1901)
- Charles Muddiman (1902 – 1970)
- Samuel Muddiman (1904 – 1964)
- John Thomas Muddiman (1908 – 1957)
- Alice Muddiman (1910 – ?)
- Elizabeth Muddiman (1912 – ?)
- Ellen Muddiman (1915 – ?)
Photo: Ancestry – chuckcoopers1
Maria passed away in 1928 and Charles Alfred passed away in 1939. There’s a possibility that Charles remarried in 1929.
1899 – Marriage of Son, John Wilson Muddiman
John Wilson Muddiman somehow ended up in Northwich, Cheshire (abt 30 miles from Ashton-under-Lyne) where he met his future wife, Elizabeth Ann Hodkinson. Elizabeth’s father had a small holding as well as the pub so he may have ended up working for the family – or for one of their neighbours.
Just after James Hodkinson’s death, they left Northwich and ended up in Barrow-in-Furness. Elizabeth fell pregnant just before her father’s death and their first child was born in September 1899.
John Wilson Muddiman and Elizabeth Ann Hodkinson married at St Marks Church, Barrow-in-Furness on 1st July 1899.
They had four children
- James Muddiman (1899 – 1977)
- Charles Muddiman (1902 – 1955)
- John Wilson (Jack) Muddiman (1903 – 1967)
- Evelyn Muddiman (1908 – 1986)
1901 Census
1 (at back) Mill Lane, Mossley, Lancashire
| Name | Relation to Head | Marital Status | Age | Occupation | Place of Birth |
| C MUDDIMAN | Head | Mar | 58 | Cotton Loom Overlooker | Warrington, Lancashire |
| Ellen MUDDIMAN | Wife | Mar | 57 | – | Halifax, Yorkshire |
Source Citation
Class: RG13; Piece: 3801; Folio: 222; Page: 14
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/discoveryui-content/view/18891299:7814
1903 – Death of Brother, Alfred Muddiman
Charles’ brother Alfred passed away in Winchester in 1903.
Right: recent photo of 61 Canon Street, Winchester – family home of Alfred & Kate Muddiman. (assuming the street hadn’t been renumbered!)
©2022 Karen Harrison
1902 – Industrial Accident
In 1902, Charles was involved in a working accident that resulted in a permanent disability.
At the Ashton-under-Lyne Powerloom Overlookers Association Gathering on Saturday 11th October 1902, Charles was awarded a £50 grant from the General Union as a result. The accident happened a few months prior.
This payout only happened as he was a member of the trades union and with the money received, Charles hoped he would be able to “jog along in comfort at some suitable business” and encouraged the youngsters to join the union as it was their friend in health and their friend in sickness or misfortune.
1908 – Death of Charles Muddiman
Charles Muddiman died at 6 Waterloo Street, Dukinfield towards the end of June 1908 aged 65. He was buried at St Michaels & All Saints on 29th June 1908.
Ellen after Charles
It looks as though Ellen had it rather tough following Charles death. At the time of the 1911 and 1921 census, she was living at St Michaels – The Union Workhouse in Ashton-under-Lyne. She was working as a weaver.
Ellen passed away aged 81 at Lake Hospital on 29th August 1924. Her daughter-in-law, Maria Muddiman, of 2 Garden Walk, Hurst, Ashton-under-Lyne registered her death. She was buried at St Michael and All Saints on 3rd September 1924. At the time of the 1921 Census, 2 Garden Walk was the home of Charles Alfred and Maria Muddiman; it looks as though Ellen lived with Charles and his family towards the end of her life.
Sources
Ancestry
British Newspapers Archive
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Find My Past
GRO
Lancashire Online Parish Clerk
